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In January 2011 the PCC (Parochial Church Council) spent a day away looking at priorities in the life of the church. We identified five areas, or which the two where we have seen obvious growth are young families and youth work. The youth work has expanded through the Youth Club that has been meeting once a month on Friday evenings in the parish hall since September 2011. Currently there are about 60 young people (aged from 10 - 15) on the books, with about 35 coming regularly. In addition we have a small number who come to Boulder, the group that follows Rock, and a smaller number of older young people meeting on Sunday evenings. Our curate Linda Fletcher was behind much of this development, but she recently left to become vicar of a parish in Swindon. Therefore we feel - and the PCC supports this - that we need to appoint a fulltime employed youth worker to take the work on further. There is much more that could be done for our young people, and our vision is that young people will

  • be engaged and feel part of a community - a youth community and the church at large
  • have the opportunity to be pastored
  • want to invite their friends
  • feel that it is something they don’t want to miss
  • grow in their discipleship
  • know they are loved by God and what they are worth
  • be helped in growing up thorough ‘spiritual parents’ (older kids and adults in church), role models, responsibilities
  • be taken seriously
  • not just be entertained
  • be aspired to by younger Rock age kids
  • have great music and worship

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FAQs

1. Is it necessary to make a full-time appointment?
2. What would a youth worker do?
3. What happens to your pledge if you are unable to fulfil the full three years? How would the shortfall be made up?
4. Can we divert our current giving to the youth worker fund?
5. After Linda goes will the amount we pay to the Diocese of Southwark decrease?
6. How will the salary will be paid after 3 years? Would there be a 3-year contract?
7. Somebody mentioned that it would be a full-time job, and that the salary would be about 23,000 a year. Is this correct?
8. Is this salary scale too generous?
9. Is accommodation offered? Does rent have to come out of the salary?
10. Would the Youth Worker have a remit for ages 0 -18? Or would it be more specific?
11. Are there any other sources of salary other than the pledges?
12. Can people contribute less than the 15 a month shares?
13. Can the appointment go ahead if the pledges have not come in.
14. How long will this process take?
15. Presumably a new trained worker would be able to liase with current activities, such as Messy Church and Rock?
16. Could we work in partnership with another organisation?
17. Could we not just ask for another curate?
18. What would a Youth Pastor do?
1. Is it necessary to make a full-time appointment?
We have calculated roughly that it would be easy to fill a 37 hour working week. We have been advised that we would not get the best choice of candidates if we advertised for a part-time post. Also, some of the costs are fixed so there would not be so much of a financial advantage in going part-time as one might think.
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2. What would a youth worker do?
The youth worker’s work would include: Sunday morning group (Boulder), Sunday evening group, All-Age communion, occasional Sunday evening worship meeting, Confirmation preparation cell group, prep. for communion cell group, School visits (possibly school clubs), time with individual young people, preparation and planning (strategy), volunteer leaders meetings, staff meeting, admin, ministry team/PCC, professional development/Spiritual direction, Youth Club (with the possibility of setting up a club for the older age group).
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3.What happens to your pledge if you are unable to fulfil the full three years? How would the shortfall be made up?
We appreciate that people’s financial circumstances may well change over the 3 years, through unemployment / ill-health / retirement etc, and you are therefore not obliged to continue with your Pledge if you are unable to. We appreciate of any financial support given, though we do need to guarantee adequate funds for this long-term investment in the Youth at St. John’s.
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4. Can we divert our current giving to the youth worker fund?
No. We cannot afford to divert any of our current giving to the church. The income we need for a youth worker must be new income over and above what is currently donated.
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5. After Linda goes will the amount we pay to the Diocese of Southwark decrease?
Unfortunately no. The amount we pay in our parish share is determined solely by the number of regular church members and their income bands.
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6. How will the salary will be paid after 3 years? Would there be a 3-year contract?
We hope that people will see the value of the work and will be able to continue with their pledges, and that new people will also contribute. Although we can create a three-year contract, under employment law a full-time employee is counted as a permanent employee after one year and cannot be dismissed without a full redundancy package.
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7. Somebody mentioned that it would be a full-time job, and that the salary would be about 23,000 a year. Is this correct?
Yes, we have been advised that 23K to 24K is the going rate for someone with the experience we would want. It is roughly equivalent to a curate’s stipend. The total cost, of course, is more than the salary as NI, PAYE and expenses have to be added.
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8. Is this salary scale too generous?
We hope to appoint a well-qualified and professionally experienced youth worker. There are nationally recognised scales of pay, and this is in line with those recommendations.
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9. Is accommodation offered? Does rent have to come out of the salary?
We will be using 8 Waddington Avenue either to accommodate the youth worker, or, depending on his/her circumstances, renting it out and using the income, in which case we may rent somewhere cheaper. Rent will not be deducted from the youth worker’s salary.
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10. Would the Youth Worker have a remit for ages 0 -18? Or would it be more specific?
Youth work needs a different set of skills to children’s work. It depends much more on building relationships with individual young people, and understanding the teenage lifestyle and its pressures so we will be advertising for someone to be involved with young people aged from about 10 - 18. At the moment we have enough volunteers to work with our children in Rock.
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11. Are there any other sources of salary other than the pledges?
We have not explored that yet. It is very unlikely that there might be any grants. The only possible source would be from renting out 8 Waddington Ave (see above).
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12. Can people contribute less than the 15 a month shares?
Yes, we don’t want to exclude any amount. We chose 15 a month as it works out at only 50p a day, and we feel it would be achievable to raise about 120 shares.
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13. Can the appointment go ahead if the pledges have not come in.
No. We can’t advertise the job unless we have most of the money pledged.
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14. How long will this process take?
Working backwards from the time of the youth worker starting, interviews would take place 2 months before, the job would be advertised 3-4 months before, and the copy would have to be ready for the advert about a month before that. In the meantime the job description, person description and contract would have to be drawn up, funds would have to be raised - or at least pledged, and housing would have to be made ready . The very earliest that an appointment could start would be January 2013, assuming all the funds were pledged by the end of August.
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15. Presumably a new trained worker would be able to liase with current activities, such as Messy Church and Rock?
Yes, we want to have a joined-up approach, but the focus of the youth minister’s work would be with young people aged from 10 upwards.
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16. Could we work in partnership with another organisation?
We have explored the possibility of working with another local church, but at the moment it looks unlikely that this would work.
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17. Could we not just ask for another curate?
No. A curate comes to the parish to complete his/her training as a priest in the Church of England. We can’t ask for or expect to have someone who is gifted or willing to take on youth work. A curate’s training has to be much wider than youth work alone.
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18. What would a Youth Pastor do?
Download the latest draft.
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If you have any more questions please email Paul Roberts.
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This page was last updated on 17/6/12.